Atheists argue that some things are intrinsically good or evil. Pain, for example, seems
to be an intrinsic evil. It is evil in and of itself; its badness is part of
its intrinsic nature and is not bestowed upon it from some external source.
Is there an argument for the claim that some things are intrinsically good or evil or are atheists
simply begging the question against someone who maintains instead that pain is bad only because God made
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