In my class we had a discussion about the logic behind mathematics today. Unfortunately we didn't manage to come up with a solution to the question about which the discussion was. The question was: From the beginning of human kind we always used a logical counting pattern (today expressed as 1,2,3); do you believe that if at the beginning of human kind our logical thinking had lacked the idea of counting, maths would have turned out to be something completely different or would it even exist?