The argument that the universe is so organized that it needed a creator to make it confuses me because isn't god so organized/sensible/well designed that something would have been needed to build him? Or did he just come around out of random chance, and if he has always just been around why is this ok for god but not the universe, meaning why is it ok for god to have just been around but not the universe?
You might look at Questions 241 and 266 .
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