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I've just read about Cantor'd diagonal argument, and I have some questions about it... Let's say we want to map every real number between 0 and 1 to natural numbers. If I'm not mistaken, that can be done this way: If we have number of form 0.abcdef... (letters stand for decimals, but only some are shown since there is infinite amount of them), then we can produce number N which equals 2^a * 3^b * 5^c * 7^d * 11^e * 13^f * (next prime)^(next decimal). For example, number 0.12 equals to 2^1 * 3^2 (* 5^0 * 7^0 * ...) = 18. Given any natural number N, we can easily determine which real number it represents (if any). My first question is: is all this consistent with Cantor's diagonal argument? (Can both be true at the same time?) Cantor proved there is no one-to-one mapping (not just any mapping), is that important for his result? If yes, it somehow seems intuitive to me, at least at the first sight, that one-to-one mapping can be achieved by simply removing natural numbers that don't represent any real number between 0 and 1, and thus we could say "n'th representing number is number x (which is equal or bigger than n, because x = n + number_or_removed_numbers), which decoded, stands for real number y". Now, this would produce a list vulnerable to original Cantor's diagonal argument. I don't understand why... could it be that "normal" mapping (the one which just turns real numbers to natural, not one-to-one mapping) works, but there is something illegal when that mapping is converted (at least using described "technique" of removing certain numbers) to one-to-one mapping?
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November 17, 2010

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Peter Smith
November 17, 2010 (changed November 17, 2010) Permalink

But what would an infinite decimal correspond to on the proposed mapping? It may be that every natural corresponds on that mapping to a real between 0 and 1. But you need -- and assert! -- that to every such real there corresponds a natural on this mapping, and that's quite plainly false when you think of the reals with non-terminating decimal expansions (the construction doesn't determine a natural).

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